1080p 60hz LED vs 720p 600hz Plasma?

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i got a samsung 720p HDTV plasma with a refresh rate of 600hz, and i say its awesome for gaming, but my mom is saying to switch it for a vizio HDTV LED 1080p tv, with only 120hz. now i am getting paranoid that my tv isnt good enough, should i stay with my tv or get the 1080p one. i primarily will use it for gaming and blu ray, and with have comcast and i heard there tv service only goes to 720p, and i cant find any tvs with 1080p and 600hz around 39-45in, only ones 50in and above, so what should i do?

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Vizio is a sub-standard brand compared to Samsung or Panasonic.

And 600 hz refresh is much, much smoother for fast moving objects so Plasma is the superior technology for video games.

You also do NOT want the TV to have to up-convert each frame of video from 720-1080. (Read the back of your game box's to see what resolution the graphics are: Most are only 720). This can take a sizable second or two of time and produces "gamer lag". You hit a control, then wait for a second before the image on the TV responds.

And gamer lag is more common on cheaper brands even if you did get a 720 because they save money by using older, slower electronics. (Like Vizio).

She's your Mom and deserves your respect.

But "Bob's your Uncle" and he has a BSEE and 30+ years experience with video games, televisions and home theater. He says you should stick with your Plasma - especially since you have it and know it performs well.

720p LG vs 1080p Insignia?

evaunit13

Yesterday I bought a 24" LG that runs at 720p, but today, an Insignia of the same size which runs at 1080p went on sale for the same price. I assume that I can return the LG and exchange for the Insignia for no extra cost, but what is keeping me for immediately doing so is the apparent difference in quality between the two brands. I've come to assume that LG is a reasonably well-respected brand, and that Insignia is a relatively cheap, generic brand which may be made with the same class of parts as LG's, but I'm not sure if that jump in picture quality is worth a presumed fall in build quality. I understand that the difference in picture quality may approach near-negligible levels when comparing smaller panels, so there is also that to keep in mind. Help?

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Stick with LG.
- It would matter if it was a big screen size and if you sit far away.

Brands that I like the most and probably best from least: Samsung, Panasonic, LG, Sony, Toshiba, Phillips.

Plasma >=< LED > LCD (LED is like the same/upgrade as LCD, so you should never go with LCD).
- Picture quality = Plasmas are better for picture quality (dark rooms and better dark pictures/video) and viewing experience with little to none motion blur (plasma for big tv's). (LED are better for tv's around 32 inches or smaller/small tv's for bright rooms and for bright pictures/videos).
- Sound quality = Plasmas are better, but LED is ok too,
- Appearance = I like plasma glass, but LED is nice too.
- Energy consumption = LED's are better (LED's are extremely economical).
- Reliable = LED's are only easier to take care of so I guess they are better.
- Price = Both are about the same price and it's up to you to decide if you want a plasma or LED.

Is 1080 good? Yes.
- 1080 resolution is better than 720 resolution.
- Bigger tv's are better with 1080 than 720 and farther you sit away from tv's means it's better to go with 1080 than 720 (If the tv is around 32 inches I would go with 720, any bigger I would just want a 1080 especially for tv's that are over 42 inches).
- Progressive scan is better than interlaced scan.
- Example: 1080p > 1080i
- Example: 720p > 720i
- Example: 1080i > 720p (because more resolution is better for slower passed videos).
- Example: 720p > 1080i (because fast pass videos you be better off with progressive scan).

Is 60hz good? = No.
- You want at least 120hz for your tv to play your videos.

Hz is the refresh rate. (Some tv's have a choice what hz you can set it at).
- It's an HD TV-set running at 60Hz - meaning it refreshes the entire screen 60 times a second.
- It's an HD TV-set running at 120Hz - meaning it refreshes the entire screen 120 times a second.

FPS = frames per second.
- NTSC countries use 60hz = 30 fps.
- PAL countries use 50hz = 24/25 fps.
(For not equal conversions there is more math to it, and there is 3:2 or 2:3 pulldowns that I will not explain).

For NTSC countries:
- To display 30 frames per second on a TV with a 60 hz refresh rate, each frame is repeated 2 times every 30th of a second.
- To display 30 frames per second on a TV with a 120 hz refresh rate, each frame is repeated 4 times every 30th of a second.

For PAL countries (you don't want a tv with 60hz because that includes more math and bad effects).
- To display 25 frames per second on a TV with a 50 hz refresh rate (PAL Countries), each frame is repeated 2 times every 25th of a second.
- To display 24 frames per second on a TV with a 72hz refresh rate, each frame is repeated 3 times every 24th of a second.
- To display 25 frames per second on a TV with a 100 hz refresh rate (PAL Countries), each frame is repeated 4 times every 25th of a second.
- To display 24 frames per second on a TV with a 120hz refresh rate, each frame is repeated 5 times every 24th of a second.
.ect

(If your playing a video with a different fps, then there is different math, I used progressive scan math btw).

The hobbit (1 out of 3): An unexpecting Journey: (Prequel to lord of the rings): is one of the first movies to change from 24 fps to 48 fps (or 30 fps to 60 fps). We may see more movies do this.

I am still new to 3d tv's, ill have to get into them as well.

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Samsung 4003 series LED 720p vs. Vizio LED-LCD 1080p TV?

NOLAsoccer

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My recommendation would be the Vizio LED since I have had one for awhile with no problems or complaints.

1080p 60hz LED vs 720p 600hz Plasma?

V

i got a samsung 720p HDTV plasma with a refresh rate of 600hz, and i say its awesome for gaming, but my mom is saying to switch it for a vizio HDTV LED 1080p tv, with only 120hz. now i am getting paranoid that my tv isnt good enough, should i stay with my tv or get the 1080p one. i primarily will use it for gaming and blu ray, and with have comcast and i heard there tv service only goes to 720p, and i cant find any tvs with 1080p and 600hz around 39-45in, only ones 50in and above, so what should i do?

Answer
Vizio is a sub-standard brand compared to Samsung or Panasonic.

And 600 hz refresh is much, much smoother for fast moving objects so Plasma is the superior technology for video games.

You also do NOT want the TV to have to up-convert each frame of video from 720-1080. (Read the back of your game box's to see what resolution the graphics are: Most are only 720). This can take a sizable second or two of time and produces "gamer lag". You hit a control, then wait for a second before the image on the TV responds.

And gamer lag is more common on cheaper brands even if you did get a 720 because they save money by using older, slower electronics. (Like Vizio).

She's your Mom and deserves your respect.

But "Bob's your Uncle" and he has a BSEE and 30+ years experience with video games, televisions and home theater. He says you should stick with your Plasma - especially since you have it and know it performs well.

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How to judge/compare the quality of videooutput in LCD TVs ?

led tv 720p vs 1080p image

pradeep_ll

i am planning to buy an LCD tv. but price difference between some brands are really huge. hence, can someone guide me, as to how do i know/judge the quality of video output in a television ?
(eg: in digicams, we look for megapixels & optical zoom etc.)

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I suggest you read the reviews in www.cnet.com

The key components are:
Resolution: 720p vs 1080p
Backlight : regular vs LED
Contrast:
Response time
Connectors (VGA, HDMI, etc.)
Internet connection (Netflix, etc.)

Visit also local showrooms

What is the best kind/brand of HDtv on the market?

Cody H

Im looking to buy a new tv and was wondering what the best kind of HD tv is in regards to plasma or lcd, pixel count, the Hz value, etc. (regardless of cost). And also i wanted to know what the best brand of tv is in yall's opinion

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TV size matters first and foremost. If you are doing 37" or smaller, then you want to go LCD. You don't notice the advantages of Plasma in smaller TVs (hence why the big time Plasma brands don't make smaller sized sets). If you break 40", and moreso if you break 50", you want to go Plasma for all of its advantages.

Same goes for the other major 'tech specs' out there. 1080p vs 720p, 720p is fine in 37" or smaller (and from friends' purchases, even 42"). For 120Hz/240Hz vs 60Hz, 60Hz is fine in 37" and smaller. But as you break 40", I would lean towards 120Hz if you can afford it. And LED LCD vs CCFL LCD, its night and day for LED. If you want LCD over Plasma, and want a TV over 40", I would jump to LED quick (but be ready to pay through the nose for it).

LCD is inherently flawed at fast motion playback. It suffers from motion blur (ghost trails). Manufacturers compensate for this with 120Hz/240Hz refresh rates. This helps in a big way, but it is not 100%. And they will charge you a price premium for this partial fix.

CCFL (traditional, majority) LCDs are weak in image quality in terms of color, blacks, and contrast. Manufacturers compensate for this with LED LCDs. This is a immense help. Its just a total night and day kind of upgrade. But you will pay through the nose for this premium feature (it has to do with the backlight source for the TV).

Plasmas are inherently near instantaneous with their response time. This means that they playback fast motion flawlessly. The 480Hz or 600Hz stuff you see for them is more marketing than anything else. Just know they are amazing in this regard (much like a CRT).

Also like a CRT, Plasmas will provide better color, true blacks, and deeper contrast. They provide a better overall image to an LCD, even an LED LCD. And for this, you pay nothing extra. It is inherent to the technology, no premium fees needed.

Plasmas only suffer from myths and misconceptions, as you can see from the other answers. In the past Plasmas were more expensive, suffered from burn-in, didn't work in high altitudes, had short life-spans, and were energy hogs. None of those hold true anymore, or even for the past several years. The technology is light years beyond its initial versions.

Plasmas don't charge for amazing fast motion playback, good colors, true blacks, and deep contrast. LCD does. Its not a premium feature on a Plasma, its inherent to the technology. So they are cheaper.

Plasmas no longer suffer from burn-in. This is a pure myth that LCD fanboys like to rant on. And better brands even come with additional anti-image retention features, above and beyond the natural improvements in the technology.

Good Plasmas are rated to 100,000 hours. That is equal to, if not far, better than and LCD on the market. Basically, at 8 hours a day, 365 days a year, that would mean in 10 years time, you would only lose about 10% of the brightness on the screen. So you'll be shopping for a new TV before your Plasma wears out.

You can buy energy star certified Plasmas now. They can beat LCDs in terms of power consumption. All models are different, from both technologies. So if that is a concern, just look through the spec sheets.

If you go Plasma, go with the Panasonic Viera if you want the videophile's TV of choice. You'll get the best image in HDTVs with them (at least affordable, Pioneer Kuro Elite is better, but $$$). If you just can't see yourself going Panasonic, then settle with a Samsung or LG Plasma instead.

If you are going with a smaller LCD, 37" or smaller, I still like Panasonic. Get one of their LCDs. They have wonderful color and blacks. Again, if that's not your thing, or you do want a larger LCD, look to Samsung first and foremost. In 37" or smaller the 450 or 550 models are good choices (550 is a bit overkill, but won't hurt in terms of quality, just price). If you go to 40" or bigger in Samsung LCD look at 650 or better models. Otherwise look to Sony and the W,Z, or XBR lines.

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When buying a 32" LED TV, does the resolution (720p vs. 1080p) and Hertz really matter?

led tv 720p vs 1080p image

Grl

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It all matters on your preferences. If you want a higher quality, better picture TV, then you'll want to get a 1080p TV with a higher amount of hertz (120+). Disadvantage is the price is higher. If you want a lower quality, lower hertz, but better cost then go for the 720p TV. It depends on do you want better picture for your TV/Games?

What type of tv is better: Plasma or LCD? & what size?

polish_pri

I'm looking to buy my first TV, I'm not sure what type of tv I should get. I went looking at the store and they both seem the same to me. The pictures looked the same and I really didn't see any major difference. I tried talking to the sales guy but he tried to sell me on huge tv that I really don't need.

Does anyone have any opinon on which is better? Any particular brand that is good?

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Budget

One of the most helpful things you can do for yourself in buying an HDTV is establish your desired budget right off the bat. With a specific number (or range), you can quickly establish which television sizes and technologies may or may not be suitable for you.

TV Size

TV size matters first and foremost. If you look through various consumer and guru guides you will see that its essentially a consensus that you need not worry about high end features unless you are going to break 40" and more so 50". The reason being is that you can not see the advantages of those features in smaller sets.

The features I'm talking about are 1080p (vs 720p), 120Hz/240Hz (vs 60Hz, only applies to LCDs), LED (vs CCFL, only applies to LCDs), and Plasma (vs LCD). So in sets of 37" or less a CCFL 720p 60Hz LCD is actually what you want for the best bang for the buck.

LCD
( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_crystal_display_television )

LCDs inherently suffer problems with motion playback. They suffer from motion blur (ghost trails). This is compensated for with the 120Hz/240Hz refresh rates. This feature helps out a lot, but is not 100%. And you are expected to pay a price premium for this add-on.

CCFL LCDs have muted colors, grey blacks, and so-so contrast. This is compensated for with the modern LED LCD. The LED backlight provides a massive jump in quality in regard to those 3 things. It brings it to a near Plasma/CRT/DLP level.

But again size matters and some of those issues aren't as glaring (if at all noticeable) if you go 37" or less.

Plasma
( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_display )

Plasmas are inherently near instantaneous in their refresh rate. They are flawless in motion playback. While you might see some tagged with 480Hz or 600Hz sub-field motion drives, this is not a refresh rate. Its more so marketing to trick consumers (because of LCD's refresh rates). But in reality the technology just works quite differently (its more like your old CRT/tube set).

Plasmas inherently deliver vivid color, true blacks, and deep contrast. They do this right out of the box. They are a better overall image. And so you get a better image and perfect motion playback without having to pay anything extra.

Plasmas only suffer from many myths and misconceptions. The main ones being that they suffer from burn-in, they are more expensive, they have shorter life spans, and they are energy hogs.

Modern Plasmas do not suffer from burn-in. If you want be cautious condition them. On a new set keep the brightness and contrast turned way down for the first 100-200 hours of use. After that optimize and enjoy.

Plasmas are not more expensive than LCD rivals anymore. Any especially with LCDs needing high end features like 120Hz and LED backlights to compete. Those features often make LCD far more expensive to buy.

Plasmas do not have shorter life spans. The reputable brands will deliver models that are rated to 60,000 - 100,000 hours. That basically means that in 10 years time, at 8 hours a day, 365 days a year, you would only really see at most about a 10% loss in brightness. So the set is likely well useable for beyond 10 years.

Current Plasma models are now energy star certified. This means no more being power hogs against LCDs. They can match LCDs in this regard.

Brands & Models
( http://reviews.cnet.com/televisions/ )

For a Plasma stick with Panasonic first and foremost. They will hands down deliver the best image quality bang for the dollar. If that's just not for you, try Samsung or LG.

For LCD of 37" or less, I still prefer Panasonic. Just because of how the image looks. But that's mainly personal taste. Otherwise, for any size, also look at Samsung and Sony to start, but also LG, Sharp, and Toshiba.

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