1080p tv under 30 inches with minimal input lag?

ultima_bah

I'm looking for a 1080p TV 24-30 inches with minimal input lag. Any recommendations?

I was looking at this: http://www.amazon.com/VIZIO-E241-A1-24-inch-1080p-Razor/dp/B009IBXEE6

A headphone is a must btw.

thanks
"First off, you can not see the difference between 720P and 1080P in screen smaller than a 46"
Sorry but that is a myth created by salesmen to push 720p TVs. You'd have to be sitting really far away or be legally blind to not tell a difference, especially at 46". Even tablets and phones are getting 1080p screens now (though I agree it is borderline excessive on a phone).

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First off, you can not see the difference between 720P and 1080P in screen smaller than a 46". The only source for 1080P are the blu ray disc movies and some video games. The refresh rate of the tv should be at less the 120HZ to reduce the blur motion of any LCD or LED tv. Lag between video and audio is due to the slow response time of the tv. This is mainly common on any bargain price tv. Look for a faster response time. Panasonic and Samsung are the top brand for quality and reliability. Keep in mind, you get what you pay for.

What is a good, cheap tv for gaming?

B.

I want a tv under 500 bucks. Also, do you think a 32 inch is a good size to game on?

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Cheap and good for gaming.
= LED (or plasma since it will not get motion blur) panasonic or samsung tv with at least 720p resolution and with at least 120 hz refresh rate.

Brands that I like the most and probably best from least: Panasonic, Samsung, LG, Sony, Toshiba, Phillips.

Plasma >=< LED > LCD (LED is like the same/upgrade as LCD, so you should never go with LCD).
- Picture quality = Plasmas are better for picture quality (dark rooms and better dark pictures/video) and viewing experience with little to none motion blur (plasma for big tv's). (LED are better for tv's around 32 inches or smaller/small tv's for bright rooms and for bright pictures/videos).
- Sound quality = Plasmas are better, but LED is ok too,
- Appearance = I like plasma glass, but LED is nice too.
- Energy consumption = LED's are better (LED's are extremely economical and good for gamers).
- Reliable = LED's are only easier to take care of and last longer, so I guess they are better. (I recommend LED tv's for gaming).
- Price = Both are about the same price and it's up to you to decide if you want a plasma or LED.

Is 1080 good? Yes.
- 1080 resolution is better than 720 resolution.
- Bigger tv's are better with 1080 than 720 (If the tv is around 32 inches I would go with 720, any bigger I would just want a 1080 especially for tv's that are over 42 inches).
- Farther you sit away from tv's means it's better to go with 1080 than 720 (If you sit more than 10 feet away from your tv, then I definitely would go with 1080).
- Progressive scan is better than interlaced scan.
- Example: 1080p > 1080i
- Example: 720p > 720i
- Example: 1080i > 720p (because more resolution is better for slower passed videos).
- Example: 720p > 1080i (because fast pass videos you be better off with progressive scan).

Is 60hz good? = No.
- You want at least 120hz for your tv to play your videos.

Hz is the refresh rate. (Some tv's have a choice what hz you can set it at).
- It's an HD TV-set running at 60Hz - meaning it refreshes the entire screen 60 times a second.
- It's an HD TV-set running at 120Hz - meaning it refreshes the entire screen 120 times a second.

FPS = frames per second.
- NTSC countries use 60hz = 30 fps.
- PAL countries use 50hz = 24/25 fps.
(For not equal conversions there is more math to it, and there is 3:2 or 2:3 pulldowns that I will not explain).

For NTSC countries:
- To display 30 frames per second on a TV with a 60 hz refresh rate, each frame is repeated 2 times every 30th of a second.
- To display 30 frames per second on a TV with a 120 hz refresh rate, each frame is repeated 4 times every 30th of a second.

For PAL countries (you don't want a tv with 60hz because that includes more math and bad effects).
- To display 25 frames per second on a TV with a 50 hz refresh rate (PAL Countries), each frame is repeated 2 times every 25th of a second.
- To display 24 frames per second on a TV with a 72hz refresh rate, each frame is repeated 3 times every 24th of a second.
- To display 25 frames per second on a TV with a 100 hz refresh rate (PAL Countries), each frame is repeated 4 times every 25th of a second.
- To display 24 frames per second on a TV with a 120hz refresh rate, each frame is repeated 5 times every 24th of a second.
.ect

(If your playing a video with a different fps, then there is different math, I used progressive scan math btw).

The hobbit (1 out of 3): An unexpecting Journey: (Prequel to lord of the rings): is one of the first movies to change from 24 fps to 48 fps (or 30 fps to 60 fps). We may see more movies do this.

I am still new to 3d tv's, ill have to get into them as well and I am not really a fan of 3d tv's anyways.
- All I can say is it's good for very slow pass scenes and/or animated movies.

I am not a fan of projectors either.

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What is the difference between LED and LCD?

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sky

ÙWhich one is better? WHY??

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OLED > Plasma > LED > LCD. (LED is a upgrade from LCD, a LED is a LCD tv, but with LED back and/or edge lights which improves many things and make it almost as good as Plasma = Don't even consider LCD).
- Plasma has the best picture and sound quality. Plasma has no motion blur problems. You should know that all tv's have burn in problems, newer plasma's fixed their burn in issues with burn in technologies like pixel shifting/scrolling.ect, you still don't want to leave static images on it for long periods of time (to be safe put the white scrolling on for a few minutes before/after using if your that worried). Plasma has improved screen glare problems, but they still kinda glare and don't do to well in bright rooms while LED is good for bright rooms. Newer plasma's are more energy efficient, but LED can still beat them by a little. Plasma is usually cheaper to buy, but more expensive to make while LED's are more expensive to buy, but more cheaper to make LED is more thinner and environment friendly to make and also LED tend to last longer then plasmas.
- I recommend at least 40 inches or more and at least 1920x1080p, if it's 30-40 inches I would still go with 1080, but if it's under 30 inches just go with 1280x720p.

Brands that I like the most and probably from best to least:
- Top brands = Panasonic (Plasma), Samsung (LED), LG (LED), Sony (LED). - Top off brands for LED = Vizio, Toshiba, Phillips.

You want 120hz refresh rate at least or more, don't eeven consider 60hz refresh rate because you will get motion blur and judder, a little guide on the whole hz is below.

FPS = frames per second (of a video).
- Frame rate is how many individual images are displayed in a second. Think of a video as a fast moving flip book.
- NTSC tv broadcasting countries use 30p or 60i fps. or PAL tv broadcasting countries use 24p/25p or 50i fps. Movies for most/all countries use 24p fps, movies are soon to be up to 48p fps (tv may have a cinematic effect which doubles the fps of a video).

Hz = refresh rate (of a tv).
- Example: A tv with a 120hz refresh rate, meaning it refreshes the entire tv screen 120 times a second. Read the below on how the fps of a video works with the refresh rate of a tv.

How LED tv (aka a LCD tv with LED backlights) or LCD tv refresh rates work?
- LED backlights are faster and use less energy consumption than LCD backlights. Both tv's use backlight scanning.

- Many tv's allow viewers to use motion interpolation frames and they are what cause gamer lag and the soap opera effect by creating more fake frames (higher fps) in between the real frames to match the refresh rate of a tv.
- The soap opera effect is when the video looks too life/unrealistic like due the really high frame rates and sceneries may look fake looking.
- Names of motion enhancement technologies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_inteâ¦

- Many tv's allow viewers to turn off interpolation and force the television to repeat the same frame a number of times to match the refresh rate of a tv.
- Example: To display 24 frames per second on a tv with a 120hz refresh rate, each frame is repeated 5 times every 24th of a second.

But what happens if the fps of a video does not divide into the refresh rate of a tv equally? = Then you get a a pulldown.
- A pulldown is what causes a jittery screen also known as judder and that's because it repeats the odd frames a different number of times it repeats the even frames of a video. The ratio of the pulldown will depend on the refresh rate of the tv.
- Example: A 3:2 pulldown is most popular because it is needed to match a 24p fps of a video with a 60 hz refresh rate of a tv. = 12 odd frames times 3 is 36 frames and 12 even frames times 2 is 24 frames and 36 frames plus 24 frames = 60 frames for a 60 hz refresh rate of a tv.

What happens if those fps into hz processions cause lag when your playing a video game on a bad tv? (motion interpolation frames is what vendor mainly cause lag).
- Game mode turns off the vendor processors which are one cause of lag when your playing video games, but that means the refresh rate will match the fps of a video which means you then might get motion blur because of the really low refresh rate the tv is running at.

How does a Plasma tv refresh rate work? (plasma also have faster response times to change from one frame to the next btw).
- 600hz = is the total of the refresh rate multiplied by the pixel sub fields = just a marketing term.
- Example: 60hz refresh rate x 10 pixel sub fields = 600hz (or 600hz / 60hz = 10 pixel sub fields). = A plasma tv creates 10 dark images that your brain combines into one full-brightness image 60 times = think of it like interpolation pixels.
= Plasma has no motion blur problems (as long as the fps and sub fields are high) = plasma does not use motion interpolation frames which means no soap opera effect or no gamer lag.

What is a good brand for a tv?

ernesto

I'm thinking of buying a 32 inch but not sure in which brand. I don't want to spend too much money but still want a decent tv so what are my options? I'm mostly going to play xbox on it if it makes a difference

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A lot of TVs that are 32" have around the same input lag so I dont think plasma would be a good choice as its benefits are less pronounced in TVs less than 42". I would go for a LED TV from LG (LM5800). Sony would be an ok choice too if you want to shell out a few xtra bucks. I have a larger 55" LG LM9600 that I game on (calibrated) and under the right settings I get around 30-40 ms of input lag. A 32" inch TV however you would probably get around 10-30ms which is perfect for gaming.

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What is the difference between LED and LCD?

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Sky

ÙWhich one is better? WHY??

Answer
OLED > Plasma > LED > LCD. (LED is a upgrade from LCD, a LED is a LCD tv, but with LED back and/or edge lights which improves many things and make it almost as good as Plasma = Don't even consider LCD).
- Plasma has the best picture and sound quality. Plasma has no motion blur problems. You should know that all tv's have burn in problems, newer plasma's fixed their burn in issues with burn in technologies like pixel shifting/scrolling.ect, you still don't want to leave static images on it for long periods of time (to be safe put the white scrolling on for a few minutes before/after using if your that worried). Plasma has improved screen glare problems, but they still kinda glare and don't do to well in bright rooms while LED is good for bright rooms. Newer plasma's are more energy efficient, but LED can still beat them by a little. Plasma is usually cheaper to buy, but more expensive to make while LED's are more expensive to buy, but more cheaper to make LED is more thinner and environment friendly to make and also LED tend to last longer then plasmas.
- I recommend at least 40 inches or more and at least 1920x1080p, if it's 30-40 inches I would still go with 1080, but if it's under 30 inches just go with 1280x720p.

Brands that I like the most and probably from best to least:
- Top brands = Panasonic (Plasma), Samsung (LED), LG (LED), Sony (LED). - Top off brands for LED = Vizio, Toshiba, Phillips.

You want 120hz refresh rate at least or more, don't eeven consider 60hz refresh rate because you will get motion blur and judder, a little guide on the whole hz is below.

FPS = frames per second (of a video).
- Frame rate is how many individual images are displayed in a second. Think of a video as a fast moving flip book.
- NTSC tv broadcasting countries use 30p or 60i fps. or PAL tv broadcasting countries use 24p/25p or 50i fps. Movies for most/all countries use 24p fps, movies are soon to be up to 48p fps (tv may have a cinematic effect which doubles the fps of a video).

Hz = refresh rate (of a tv).
- Example: A tv with a 120hz refresh rate, meaning it refreshes the entire tv screen 120 times a second. Read the below on how the fps of a video works with the refresh rate of a tv.

How LED tv (aka a LCD tv with LED backlights) or LCD tv refresh rates work?
- LED backlights are faster and use less energy consumption than LCD backlights. Both tv's use backlight scanning.

- Many tv's allow viewers to use motion interpolation frames and they are what cause gamer lag and the soap opera effect by creating more fake frames (higher fps) in between the real frames to match the refresh rate of a tv.
- The soap opera effect is when the video looks too life/unrealistic like due the really high frame rates and sceneries may look fake looking.
- Names of motion enhancement technologies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_inteâ¦

- Many tv's allow viewers to turn off interpolation and force the television to repeat the same frame a number of times to match the refresh rate of a tv.
- Example: To display 24 frames per second on a tv with a 120hz refresh rate, each frame is repeated 5 times every 24th of a second.

But what happens if the fps of a video does not divide into the refresh rate of a tv equally? = Then you get a a pulldown.
- A pulldown is what causes a jittery screen also known as judder and that's because it repeats the odd frames a different number of times it repeats the even frames of a video. The ratio of the pulldown will depend on the refresh rate of the tv.
- Example: A 3:2 pulldown is most popular because it is needed to match a 24p fps of a video with a 60 hz refresh rate of a tv. = 12 odd frames times 3 is 36 frames and 12 even frames times 2 is 24 frames and 36 frames plus 24 frames = 60 frames for a 60 hz refresh rate of a tv.

What happens if those fps into hz processions cause lag when your playing a video game on a bad tv? (motion interpolation frames is what vendor mainly cause lag).
- Game mode turns off the vendor processors which are one cause of lag when your playing video games, but that means the refresh rate will match the fps of a video which means you then might get motion blur because of the really low refresh rate the tv is running at.

How does a Plasma tv refresh rate work? (plasma also have faster response times to change from one frame to the next btw).
- 600hz = is the total of the refresh rate multiplied by the pixel sub fields = just a marketing term.
- Example: 60hz refresh rate x 10 pixel sub fields = 600hz (or 600hz / 60hz = 10 pixel sub fields). = A plasma tv creates 10 dark images that your brain combines into one full-brightness image 60 times = think of it like interpolation pixels.
= Plasma has no motion blur problems (as long as the fps and sub fields are high) = plasma does not use motion interpolation frames which means no soap opera effect or no gamer lag.

What is a good brand for a tv?

ernesto

I'm thinking of buying a 32 inch but not sure in which brand. I don't want to spend too much money but still want a decent tv so what are my options? I'm mostly going to play xbox on it if it makes a difference

Answer
A lot of TVs that are 32" have around the same input lag so I dont think plasma would be a good choice as its benefits are less pronounced in TVs less than 42". I would go for a LED TV from LG (LM5800). Sony would be an ok choice too if you want to shell out a few xtra bucks. I have a larger 55" LG LM9600 that I game on (calibrated) and under the right settings I get around 30-40 ms of input lag. A 32" inch TV however you would probably get around 10-30ms which is perfect for gaming.

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